Longmont CO Health Ralliers Reply to Democratic ‘Mob’ Charge
August 10 Update: In the above video, Spark Erickson says, “Hell, we came in on a bus with 45 agitators… of course we are [part of a mob]. You know that… And if I’m not, they’ll tell you I am, so… go whatever way you want to with that.” Apparently Erickson’s sarcasm was lost on some viewers. Jeff Crank, the event’s organizer, reports, “In total, there were six people who rode the bus from place to place on the bus tour. That includes the driver and tour coordinator.”
Longmont CO Health Raly August 6 2009 Part 1
Longmont CO Health Raly August 6 2009 Part 2
Longmont CO Health Rally Speakers August 6, 2009
According to certain Democratic leaders, those who protest Obamacare are mobs. Ben DeGrow offers a good summary of articles related to this.
Congressman Ed Perlmutter told the Denver Post about tense Town Hall meetings, “They gin up this conflict and in some ways thuggery to try and stop stuff.”
In other words, at a Town Hall meeting, where politicians invite people to come and speak, politicians expect people to shut up and take it.
According to Congressman Perlmutter, forcibly confiscating people’s money is not “thuggery.” Forcing some people to subsidize others through a maze of insurance controls and mandates is not “thuggery.” Dictating to doctors how they shall provide health care, to patients how they shall receive it, and to insurers how they shall insure it, is not “thuggery.” But complaining about it, that is “thuggery.” Speaking up is “thuggery.” Saying “no” to Big Brother is “thuggery.” Daring to exercise the First Amendment is “thuggery.” According to Congressman Perlmutter.
I was amazed that 150 to 200 people showed up for a “Hands Off My Health” rally in Longmont, in the middle of a work day, when seven such rallies were scheduled across the state with little advance notice.
I talked to a number of participants. I asked people why they came to the rally. I asked them why they oppose Obamacare. Finally, I asked them what they think of Democratic smears that they’re part of some “mob.” In short, I did what Democrats are deathly afraid to do: listen to people’s opinions.
August 8 Update: I’ve added a fourth video, featuring some of the comments of the speakers. My favorite videos feature the participants. Please note that I don’t necessarily agree with everything said at the rally.
Moreover, I didn’t include everything I recorded in the published videos. I omitted a couple of comments, one calling Obama a “bastard” and another calling him a “racist.” These were not indicative of the mood or sentiment of the event, nor do I regard such remarks as remotely useful. I recorded at least one comment about abortion that I left out; however, I think only one or two people I talked with mentioned the issue.
One guy said he thinks the solution is local taxes to care for the poor, which, while arguably better than federal programs, is neither consistent with liberty nor remotely adequate for those who regard health care as some sort of right.
Jeff Crank, the event’s organizer, made the same comment he made at a previous rally, which is that the government should force insurers to ignore pre-existing conditions. I’ve criticized that view previously (in a co-authored column with my dad).
I approached people more or less randomly for interviews. Obviously only a minority agreed to be interviewed.
Interestingly, while some of the handful of union-associated counter-protesters talked with the Longmont Daily Times-Call, they all refused to grant me an interview. They said they were too busy and had to hit the road to attend the next rally. I think they were simply unable to make their case for Obamacare and knew as much.
However, I gave Nate, one of the counter-protestors, my card. I told him he could write a 500 word reply to this post, and I would publish it, unedited, perhaps with my reply. If you actually have arguments for your position, Nate, please take advantage of my offer. Otherwise, people might think you’re all show and no substance.
Ari Submitted on 2009/08/10 at 11:40 pm
THE BUS: To definitively settle the matter, Jeff Crank, the event’s organizer, reports, “In total, there were six people who rode the bus from place to place on the bus tour. That includes the driver and tour coordinator.”
Anonymous Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 10:38 pm
… As a Sr. Citizen, I must say, I’ve never witnessed a United States Presidential administration like this one. … Of course senior citizens are against health care, they’ve already GOT their government health care and could care less about the rest of us. Why don’t you hypocrites fight to get rid of Medicare? Oh, that’s right, YOU are entitled to government health care but those of us working and paying taxes to support YOUR health care have no right to health care ourselves. Got it. Thanks.
Anonymous Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 2:33 pm
So what’s the big deal about going on a bus to these things? Saves on parking, traffic, gas, and let’s not forget fragile Mother Earth!
T.L. James Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 12:48 pm
Great stuff, Ari.
We have some coverage over at People’s Press Collective of Perlmutter’s town-hall cowering-I-mean-meeting in Brighton yesterday. Including some shots of a pro-Obamacare astroturfer and an interview which illustrates the point above about not knowing the issue.
Anonymous Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 12:48 pm
People are commenting on their clothes, because Barbara Boxer (D-CA)said that the healthcare reform protesters are too well dressed to be just concerned citizens so they must be planted by the GOP, insurance companies, etc.
Ari Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 11:56 am
Actually, the union-associated counter-protesters, who went from rally to rally, were relatively young and attractive. And entirely uninterested in articulating their views.
Anonymous Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 11:34 am
I wonder if interviews with a busload of fat guys in purple “SEIU” t-shirts would be as convincing.
sh007r Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 11:06 am
Plane crash lawyer?
At least he admits to be a liberal.
Soo0, planecrash, how bout some TORT reform? That could save $3-500 Billion annually.
Ari Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 10:46 am
The comments about clothing are a response Democratic smears.
Anonymous Submitted on 2009/08/09 at 9:58 am
Please next time around remember not to call leftists thugs, mobs… By the way why people talk about their clothing or profession to prove that they are not a mob?